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Comments on: Intel Xeon E7 v3 Product Family Released https://www.sqlskills.com/blogs/glenn/intel-xeon-e7-v3-product-family-released/ Semi-random musings about SQL Server performance Tue, 13 Nov 2018 18:52:34 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9.4 By: Glenn Berry https://www.sqlskills.com/blogs/glenn/intel-xeon-e7-v3-product-family-released/#comment-207326 Fri, 11 Mar 2016 23:11:25 +0000 http://3.209.169.194/blogs/glenn/?p=952#comment-207326 Chris,

The four-core, E7-8893 v3 will have the best single-threaded performance and the lowest SQL Server license cost. The only question is whether it will have enough total capacity for your workload or not. The next jump up is to the 10-core E7-8891 v3, which will have lower single-threaded performance and much higher (more than double) the SQL Server license cost.

Another alternative would be to look at a new two-socket server like a Dell R730, with an eight-core E5-2667 v3 or ten-core E5-2687W. If you can wait a few weeks, the E5-2600 v4 family will be available in the same servers. This assumes that 768GB of RAM is enough for you.

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By: Chris Spangler https://www.sqlskills.com/blogs/glenn/intel-xeon-e7-v3-product-family-released/#comment-207321 Fri, 11 Mar 2016 21:26:48 +0000 http://3.209.169.194/blogs/glenn/?p=952#comment-207321 In reply to Glenn Berry.

Thank you for your fast response!!

Ideally, yes I’d love to split the workloads across multiple servers, but unfortunately that’s a plan for further down the road. So, for the time being I’ve been ‘tasked’ to build out an environment that can handle the mixed workload.
With our current hardware architecture we’re core bound at peak traffic. To get us better singe threaded processing & scalability, as I mentioned previously, I’m looking at a 4x socket configuration. And since I can’t distribute my workload just yet, in the E7-8800 processor family, what wold you recommend for better performance: (E7-8890 v3, 8867 v3–most expensive), 8891 v3, 8893 v3?

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By: Glenn Berry https://www.sqlskills.com/blogs/glenn/intel-xeon-e7-v3-product-family-released/#comment-207227 Thu, 10 Mar 2016 19:13:53 +0000 http://3.209.169.194/blogs/glenn/?p=952#comment-207227 In reply to Chris Spangler.

Hey Chris,

I would tend to avoid the Xeon E5-4600 v3 series processors, since the Xeon E5 does not seem to scale very well in four-socket servers. The E7-8893 v3 will be quite a bit faster for single-threaded performance and will have more memory capacity. It will be more expensive for the hardware because of the high prices that Intel charges for the E7-8800 v3 family processors. Perhaps you could split your workload across two, two-socket servers that each have two Xeon E5-2643 v3 or two E5-2637 v3 processors?

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By: Chris Spangler https://www.sqlskills.com/blogs/glenn/intel-xeon-e7-v3-product-family-released/#comment-207219 Thu, 10 Mar 2016 18:37:16 +0000 http://3.209.169.194/blogs/glenn/?p=952#comment-207219 Morning Glenn,
I was wondering if I could get your opinion about a processor. I currently have a SandyBridge, E5-4650 2.7Ghz v1, 4x socket, 8 core, in a stand alone Dell 830R. I plan on upgrading to SQL 2014, along with new hardware, but I’m not sure about what new processor to go with. I was thinking about 4x E7-8893 v3 3.2GHz, 4 core or 4x E5-4655 v3, 2.9GHz, 6 cores. I want to make sure I have better cpu scalability & performance, with the higher clock speed. But temper the core counts with the SQL licensing costs.

Thank you for your time.

Chris

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By: Glenn Berry https://www.sqlskills.com/blogs/glenn/intel-xeon-e7-v3-product-family-released/#comment-183866 Wed, 08 Jul 2015 17:52:26 +0000 http://3.209.169.194/blogs/glenn/?p=952#comment-183866 In reply to Roland.

Hi Roland,

That is the best model of the E5-4600 v3 family, with a relatively low core count and high clock speeds. Older versions of the E5-2600 have not scaled very well in four-socket servers, but maybe the v3 will do better. Normally I would recommend an E7-8800 v3 for a four-socket server, but they are more expensive for the hardware.

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By: Roland https://www.sqlskills.com/blogs/glenn/intel-xeon-e7-v3-product-family-released/#comment-183768 Tue, 07 Jul 2015 12:32:18 +0000 http://3.209.169.194/blogs/glenn/?p=952#comment-183768 Glenn, would you think of the E5-4655 v3 (6 Cores, 2.9GHz-3.2GHz, 30MB Cache) as suitable for a set of hyper-v hosts for SQL Server? We would license 2 hosts with HP DL560 Gen9 (4CPUs per host). This would give us a total of 96 vCPUs to work with, but only license 48 Cores with SQL Server. E7s are really not an option for us.

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By: Juan https://www.sqlskills.com/blogs/glenn/intel-xeon-e7-v3-product-family-released/#comment-180701 Wed, 03 Jun 2015 19:16:48 +0000 http://3.209.169.194/blogs/glenn/?p=952#comment-180701 In reply to Glenn Berry.

Thanks for the reply Glen.

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By: Glenn Berry https://www.sqlskills.com/blogs/glenn/intel-xeon-e7-v3-product-family-released/#comment-180475 Mon, 01 Jun 2015 21:12:55 +0000 http://3.209.169.194/blogs/glenn/?p=952#comment-180475 In reply to Juan.

No articles on that specific subject. With SQL Server 2012/2014, you are supposed to pay for each virtual core that the guest OS can see (unless you have enough physical core licenses for the entire host, and you have Microsoft SA). You would simply have to multiply the number of vCPUs times the per core license cost to get a cost figure.

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By: Juan https://www.sqlskills.com/blogs/glenn/intel-xeon-e7-v3-product-family-released/#comment-180473 Mon, 01 Jun 2015 21:03:52 +0000 http://3.209.169.194/blogs/glenn/?p=952#comment-180473 Glen, do you have any article on the costs of running a virtualized SQL server over Hyper-V (w/Virtual Fibre Channel) on top of any of these “monster” CPU/Servers (16-18 Cores).

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By: Glenn Berry https://www.sqlskills.com/blogs/glenn/intel-xeon-e7-v3-product-family-released/#comment-177541 Thu, 07 May 2015 20:13:45 +0000 http://3.209.169.194/blogs/glenn/?p=952#comment-177541 I think I would be thinking about a Dell R930 in that situation. Just be aware that the hardware cost will be quite a bit higher, with four E7 v3 processors vs. two E5 v3 processors, plus the base cost difference between an R730xd and an R930.

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